by Michael Burleigh
Many jihadis seek to create a global caliphate, ruled by Sharia. At best, Christians, Hindus, and Jews would live in a state of submission tantamount to second-class citizenship. If they got above themselves, they would suffer the persecutions Islamists visited on the Coptic Christians of Egypt. The rule of Islamists has resulted in murderous chaos – 150,000 died in Algeria during the 1990s when madmen decided that most of the Muslim population were apostates. The Taleban anti-state so ruined Afghanistan that Americans joked that they had to bomb it forwards to the Stone Age. [ LOL! ] There are significant numbers of people living in Britain who wish to visit such chaos on us.
This is the backdrop to the debate about anti-terrorism legislation. As usual lawyers talk to lawyers, including those overrepresented in our political class. Overlooking that our greatest right is to life, civil libertarians are exercised about proposals to extend detention of suspects from 28 to 56 days.
Shami Chakrabarti, the barrister whom the BBC assiduously promotes as the voice of a presumed liberal consensus, will widen her Diana-like eyes in outrage, while Amnesty will mutter darkly about internment. Then we’ll hear from Gareth Peirce – the Provos’ and now the jihadis’ lawyer of choice – or her business rival Mudassur Arani, whose website advises Muslims how to deny cooperation with M15. Ms Arani was recently exercised by an attack on Dhiren Barot, the British al-Qaeda terrorist, by a fellow prison inmate. She wants jihadi prisoners all kept together, doubtless so that within ten minutes of such consolidation, she would be whining about a British Guantanamo, from where, say, Clive Stafford Smith, would soon relay lurid terrorist tales of torture to Channel 4 News.
Since activist lawyers routinely usurp a moral high ground vacated by a lazy liberalism, it seems almost vulgar to point out that at least one terrorist group – the Baader-Meinhof gang – was co-founded by a lawyer, Horst Mahler (nowadays a neo-Nazi), while Lynne Stewart, defence counsel to blind Sheikh Omar Abdul Rahman, is serving a prison sentence for helping him to communicate from his prison cell with his Egyptian followers. [Fucking stupid cow!]
Now that Gordon Brown has rejected the proposal of Lord Carlile of Berriew, QC, to give judges the powers to extend periods of detention, on the understandable ground that senior judges sabotaged the system of control orders after freeing the Belmarsh detainees, perhaps his lordship could get the Law Society to focus on its own nest?
Some of Mr Brown’s proposals announced this week in the Commons make sense, although they are hopelessly overdue. The Tories have long argued for a dedicated border police, staffed with officers on serious salaries. Instead of which we are going to get an agency mainly staffed by low-grade Customs officers. Electronic passenger screening is being introduced after the US warned us that it may introduce visa requirements for Anglo-Pakistanis on the ground that you don’t stop Jaguars when a Toyota has been stolen. Belated steps are being taken to secure strategic sites, sports grounds and shopping malls, as well as, tardily again, to hook up our immigration computers with Europol’s databank of seven million lost or stolen passports.
Another proposal briefly floated was to turn a few circuit judges into European-style investigative magistrates. One can’t quite imagine these claret-faced old buffers in the role of Jean-Louis Brugière, a French judge whose pursuit of Islamists led to his being dubbed “the sheriff”, and not only because of the Magnum revolver he had under his jacket.
One of the puzzles of our time is why Britain scrupulously adheres to the Human Rights Act, when our allies and partners systematically flout the European Convention on Human Rights. Talk of human rights abuses invariably focuses on the US, with sneering TV documentaries about Guantanamo or CIA “extraordinary rendition”. But on much of the Continent they don’t allow civil liberty lawyers to turn terrorism into a risk-free activity.
When the Socialist Interior Minister of Spain organised a campaign of assassinating Eta terrorists across the border in France during the 1990s, he was following in the footsteps of French governments that had routinely killed FLN and OAS arms traders in the 1960s. Getting Spain’s message, France began deporting Eta suspects to places such as Papua New Guinea, and has since been repatriating radical Islamist clerics. The Germans, likewise, did not hesitate to deport a Turkish imam on grounds of national security, even though he had lived in Germany for 30 years. The former German Interior Minister, Otto Schily, once a lawyer for Baader-Meinhof defendants, cryptically remarked of the jihadis: “Those who love death can have it.”
While we agonise about 28 or 56 days custody, it is not uncommon for terrorist suspects in France to be held in preventive detention for four or five years before their case goes to court. The use of intelligence intercept evidence in courts is being debated here, but the Italian security services have long made transcripts of this material available, so revealing the lying cynicism with which, for example, Milan-based Arab jihadis regard European asylum laws. And then there is the internet, one of the key means of radicalising Muslims. Wolfgang Schäuble, the German Interior Minister, wheelchair-bound since a 1990 assassination attempt, has argued recently in favour of hacking into the computers of Islamist radicals. We can’t even manage to shut down jihadi websites or to prohibit subversive organisations, such as Hizb ut-Tahir, from operating on university campuses where the dons think they are dealing with the usual middle-class radicals.
If Mr Brown’s anti-terrorism measures seem ignorant of what our fellow Europeans practise routinely, they also reflect an outmoded habit of separating domestic and foreign policy. Why is foreign aid not contingent upon warning recipient states that they will forfeit it if clerics they subsidise preach hatred of the West? Why aren’t we helping Afghanistan or Pakistan to build secular alternatives to the Saudi-financed madrassas where children are brainwashed with cartoon Jew killers? If this is a neo-Cold War, why are we failing to help the four fifths of Muslims who are not from the Middle East to assert themselves against that demented region?
The predictable racket between rival lawyers does not even begin to address the serious questions involved if we don’t wish to live in that grim caliphate or to be murdered by hysterical fanatics.
Michael Burleigh’s most recent book is Sacred Causes: Religion and Politics from the European Dictators to al-Qaeda
And we have that liberal fucking twat Shami Chakranarti lying her fucking arse off to the press and nobody has a clue!
"Our pre-charge detention period for terror suspects now stands at 28 days - the longest in the free world."
This lie has been repeated countless times in the media. Yet in France, they detain suspected terrorists for 4 to 5 years without charge, technically there is NO LIMIT in France.
This highlights how people with "religious beliefs", which are essentially fantastical fantasies, think that their beliefs trump everything else.
In the Metro this morning, "Hindu monk brother Alex" (ex-hippie-commune-type) said, "If the Welsh assembly want to take him out of there they will have to interrupt an act of worship"
Oh My Fucking God. Not interrupt an act of worship! Fuck! When people are worshipping they should be able to get away with anything!
And another thing
And pagans it seems want a piece of the don't offend my 'religion' lark. This is what happens when the media, establishments and powers that be kertow to the irrational and threatening demands of militant muslims. They all want a piece of the action. FFS.
Homer chalk giant angers pagans
P.s. if you're interested here's some comments I made earlier of which spawned my rant
Lebanese army completely destroys Palestinian refugee camp. Israel not involved, so media not reporting it.3 Comments Published by jonz on Sunday, July 22, 2007 at 11:16 PM.
Remember when Israel fought militants at a Palestinian refugee camp? The left-wing media was hysterical, it was immediately deemed a massacre. Yet at this 'massacre', 56 Palestinians died, most of them militants
And now please observe the front pages of every major news outlet.... Nothing!
So, when Israel destroy a Palestinian refugee camp in counter-terrorist activities it is a massacre. When the Lebananese army does the same, with a higher death toll, it's barely worth mentioning at all.
Other types of movement include the African-American Civil Rights Movement and Gandhis independence movement
By Sayed SalahuddinKABUL (Reuters) - Afghanistan's Taliban movement on Saturday killed two German hostages
One would be forgiven for thinking Reuters journalists such as Sayed Salahuddin actually want the Taliban to have supremacy.
The forces endeavouring to enslave the entire world now are moving towards this hemisphere. Delay invites danger. Rapid and united efforts by all peoples of the world who are determined to remain free will ensure world victory for the forces of justice and righteousness over the forces of savagery and barbarism.
President Roosevelt to Congress, 1941
However, reading the comments at Harrys Place a commentor pointed to this
What Islam really says?
You just KNOW that the what's going to be said is going to the biggest heap of BULLSHIT you have ever heard!
Quran 8:12 Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."
Qur'an 9:5: Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Will be truncated to "Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."
Quran 4:34 Husbands should take full care of their wives, with [the bounties] God has given to some more than others and with what they spend out of their own money. Righteous wives are devout and guard what God would have them guard in the husbands’ absence. If you fear high-handedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great.
Will become: "Husbands should take full care of their wives!"
Quran 5:51: O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
Will become "O you who believe! do take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are great friends! Surely Allah does guide these people!"
Two RAF fighter jets were scrambled on Tuesday to intercept two Russian planes on course for British airspace, it emerged yesterday.The Telegraph
The incident marked the latest escalation of tensions in the standoff between London and
As Moscow hesitated in its response to Britain's expulsion of four Russian diplomats, two Tornado fighters raced to meet the Tu95 "Bear" bombers that had been dispatched from their base near the northern port city of Murmansk in the Arctic Circle. The planes turned back before they reached British airspace.
The incident, now rare according to the RAF, but once commonplace during the Cold War, may be seen as a show of defiance by the Kremlin.
But Moscow said the Russian planes were on a training flight unrelated to the current diplomatic crisis over the murder of Alexander Litvinenko.
What do you think the reaction would be?
Yet, BBC1 commission Lenry Henry standup, with jokes about "white people... white people.." or "a white girl came to me.." blah blah blah.
Is it therefore justified that equally, or more so, Lenry or Chappelle, also take the piss out of "their own"?
That was of course Bernard Mannings' defence. Of course, he was a fucking offensive bastard, but he did say he picks on everybody. Apparently only 2% of his jokes were about ethnic minorities.
I am not, for one second, calling for the pulling of these shows. What I am asking for a is some kind of consistency. And I am not saying being provocatively and deliberately being racially offensive is acceptable. Because it's not.
British forces have denied rumours that they released a plague of ferocious badgers into the Iraqi city of Basra.
Word spread among the populace that UK troops had introduced strange man-eating, bear-like beasts into the area to sow panic.
But several of the creatures, caught and killed by local farmers, have been identified by experts as honey badgers.
The rumours spread because the animals had appeared near the British base at Basra airport.
UK military spokesman Major Mike Shearer said: "We can categorically state that we have not released man-eating badgers into the area.
Squirrel Spy Ring? Thats Nuts!
Police in Iran are reported to have taken 14 squirrels into custody - because they are suspected of spying.
No fucking way?!!! As Weatherwax says You couldn't make it up!
Quote from the BBC
More than 1,000 civilians - the overwhelming majority of them Lebanese - were killed during the 34-day conflict.
This pretty much sounds like Israel killed nearly 1,000 civilians, does it not?
Yet this is an outrageous mistake, or a lie. From Wikipedia:
The conflict killed over a thousand people, most of whom were Lebanese
However it's likely that somewhere around 700 were HIZBOLLAH according to Lebanese sources
"Victory to the Iraqi Resistance" is a common epithet amongst the largely "socialist" lead "anti-war" marches around the world.
How ironic they declare themselves "anti-war". They are not anti-war, they are very much pro-war, they're just on the wrong side.
And here's the Iraqi "resistance" in it's full glory.
105 dead in truck bomb attack
I stumbled upon this news article Two shot and man stabbed in fight and noticed a link the the BBC's Black Country website next to the article. I thought that's a bit much isn't it! They didn't say they were black in the news article!
I couldn't get my ahead around it. Click here quell your unrelenting curiosity.
.. but the British people have been under a lot more things than this
and they will always stand proud.
And you come to Glasgow, Glasgow doesn't accept this, do you know what I mean?
This is Glasgow. We'll set about you
Muslim leaders in Merseyside have promised that extremists will be "hounded out" of their community.
Elders spoke out on Wednesday after it emerged that two of the men being held after the failed UK car bombings are cousins with links to the North West.
Dr Sabeel Ahmed, 26, lived in Liverpool and worked at Halton Hospital, Runcorn, with 27-year-old Mohammed Haneef.
On Wednesday, Mohammad Akbar Ali, a Liverpool Muslim elder, joined police in speaking out against extremism.
"If anyone has any ideas that perhaps they will find some sanctuary or some place to hide after engaging in such activities or entertaining such ideas then he is absolutely wrong," he said.
"We have no place in our hearts or in our mosques or in our areas for such people.
"Let them be warned that they will be hounded out of these areas."
Mr Ali urged older members of the Muslim community to set an example to younger people.
"Some of them are perhaps misguided, and some of them have been thoroughly brainwashed in one way or another," he said.
Mr Ali said one solution was to establish counselling centres where elders could take in any young people with "very misguided ideas about Islam".
Alex McIlveen, 45 kicked and punched the two men after they crashed a Jeep Cherokee loadedwith propane gas intended to cause devastation and destruction in Terminal One.
I kicked him with full force right in the balls but he didn't go down. He just kept on babbling his rubbish. I couldn't believe that he was still standing. I know I would have been floored by that kind of kick.
Alex was one of group of heroic Scots who took on the men who targeted the airport on Saturday afternoon.
He told the Daily Record: "I noticed a 4x4 sitting in the middle of the road. Then, as my passenger was paying and getting out, the Jeep rammed into the airport entrance right next to us.
Then he kicked and punched a man to the ground before punching a policeman square in the face.
"That's when I saw red. That sort of thing just isn't on.
"I told my passenger to run for her life, then I went for the passenger and managed to skelp him in the face. I followed it up by booting him twice."
The father of two damaged a tendon in his foot after he kicked one of the suspects.
The cabbie said: "I kicked him with full force right in the balls but he didn't go down. He just kept on babbling his rubbish.
"I couldn't believe that he was still standing. I know I would have been floored by that kind of kick."
Then he went after the driver of the vehicle.
"It was obvious the driver wanted into the boot of the Jeep for something and I was worried about what it was. I thought it must be a gun.
"He was going crazy, just lashing out at everyone and babbling p*sh ['pish' scottish for piss]in a foreign language the whole time.
"I've heard people say since that he was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of c**p to me.
"I ran for the guy and punched him twice in the face with pretty good right hooks.
He recalled: "He was a big guy and I'm not really a fighter, but his punches were wild and I managed to dodge them and make some good strikes myself.
"I don't think the policeman I saw at the scene drew his baton during the whole thing. He should have given it to me - I'd have leathered those guys with it."
It was only later at the Paisley police station where Alex was helping detectives with their inquiries that the severity of the incident hit the cabbie.
The Telegraph cartoonist makes a rather apt and important political point.
The Guardian, however, despite their Islamophobic racists [well, if only he was white eh lefties? Never mind], they only want to criticise the government and authorities reaction to terrorism.
On their Comment is Free site, the heading Steve Bellend picture is this