IF YOU'RE A MUSLIM - IT'S YOUR PROBLEM

[Cross posted at Infidel Bloggers Alliance]

The article below is reproduced from
The News of the World.

An excellent no holds barred piece, a must read. "We" as in bloggers and commentors alike are already familiar with the arguments in this piece. But what is significant is that was published in one of Britains most popular Sunday newspapers - and by Lord Stevens

Lord Stevens is the former Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, and may be standing as Conservative candidate for Mayor of London. (Go on my son, kick out red Ken!).


WHEN will the Muslims of Britain stand up to be counted?

When will they declare, loud and clear, with no qualifications or quibbles about Britain's foreign policy, that Islamic terrorism is WRONG?

Most of all, when will the Muslim community in this country accept an absolute, undeniable, total truth: that Islamic terrorism is THEIR problem? THEY own it. And it is THEIR duty to face it and eradicate it.

To stop the denial, endless fudging and constant wailing that somehow it is everyone else's problem and, if Islamic terrorism exists at all, they are somehow the main victims.

Because until that happens the problem will never be resolved. And there will be more 7/7s and, sometime in the future, another airplane plot will succeed with horrific loss of innocent life.

Equally important, those British politicians who have seemed obsessed with pandering to, and even encouraging, this state of denial, must throw off their politically-correct blinkers and recognise the same truth—that Muslim terrorism in Britain is the direct responsibility of British Muslims.

If only they would follow the lead of Home Secretary John Reid, whose tough, pragmatic, clear-sighted approach has been a breath of fresh air. Only then can they properly work out how to tackle it.

For instance, every airport in Britain is in chaos over the plane bomb-plot alert as every passenger is subjected to rigorous security checks. Why? They take lots of time, lots of staff, and are extremely expensive.

I'm a white 62-year-old 6ft 4ins suit-wearing ex-cop—I fly often, but do I really fit the profile of suicide bomber? Does the young mum with three tots? The gay couple, the rugby team, the middle-aged businessman?

No. But they are all getting exactly the same amount and devouring huge resources for no logical reason whatsoever. Yet the truth is Islamic terrorism in the West has been universally carried out by young Muslim men, usually of ethnic appearance, almost always travelling alone or in very small groups. A tiny percentage, I bet, of those delayed today have such characteristics.

This targeting of airport resources is called passenger profiling—the Israelis invented it and they've got probably the safest airports and airlines in the world.

In all my years at the front line of fighting terrorism, one truth was always clear — communities beat terrorists, not governments or security forces. But communities can't beat terrorism unless they have the will to do so. My heart sank this week as I saw and read the knee-jerk reaction of friends and neighbours of those arrested in this latest incident, insisting it was all a mistake and the anti-terrorist squad had the wrong people.

I have no idea whether those arrested are guilty or not. But neither have those friends and neighbours. They spoke as if it was inconceivable such a thing could happen in their community; that those arrested were all good Muslims; that Islam is a religion of peace so no Muslim could dream of planning such an act.

But we heard the same from the family and friends of the 7/7 bombers, didn't we?

And the two young British Muslims who died as suicide bombers in Israel. Then there are the British Muslims known to have become suicide bombers in Iraq.

There is currently a huge, long-running and complex alleged Islamist bomb plot being tried at the Old Bailey. And a fistful of other cases of alleged Muslim terrorism plots such as the 21/7 London Underground case are also awaiting trial.

All this would suggest the blindingly obvious—that terrorism is a major problem for the Muslim community of Britain. Of course, there will be instant squealings that this is racism. It's not. It's exactly the same as recognising that, during the Northern Ireland troubles that left thousands dead, the IRA were totally based in the Catholic community and the UVF in the Protestant.

And that, most importantly, IRA terrorism only began to draw to a close when that Catholic community it was based in decided as a whole that it was no longer prepared to back violence as the only way forward. Interestingly, it was Catholic revulsion over republican terrorist atrocities such as Enniskillen and Omagh that fuelled that change.

Well, Muslim terrorism in Britain is based in, has its roots in, and grows in, our Muslim community. The madmen of 7/7 and other suicide bombings didn't hide among the Hindu communities, worship in the Sikh temples, recruit at Catholic churches, did they? It may be true that events in Iraq have angered sections of the Muslim community. I have no doubts, whatever Tony Blair says, that it was a catalyst. I also think it's entirely fair for Muslims, if they wish, to vocally oppose Britain's continuing involvement there.

I can recognise, too, that recent events in Lebanon inflame some people, and they want their voices of protest heard. The absolutely unacceptable problem is that this opposition is used by too many to turn a blind eye to, or excuse, terrorists in their midst.

Blasting a passenger airliner out of the sky, killing hundreds of innocent men, women and children, is NEVER acceptable. Under any circumstances. There is NEVER an excuse.

A terrible tragedy costing Muslim lives in Lebanon or Iraq or Afghanistan is never ever an excuse for terrorism here.

It is totally unacceptable, totally wrong. What one party perceives as a wrong, no matter how strongly they feel, does not, in turn, justify another wrong being done to avenge it.

And until every single member of the Muslim community believes that and preaches that—from an ordinary parent to imam or madrassa teacher—terrorism can't be beaten.

Politicians must accept this truth, and do something about it. One example would be to tackle this chaos at our airports and the passenger profiling I described earlier. Another must is to reconsider ID cards. The importance of knowing whether someone really is who they say they are has never been higher.

This must be combined with improved border controls, logging exactly who goes OUT of the country as well as who comes in should also be reconsidered, whatever the politically correct among us may say. The time terrorism suspects are kept in custody before charge has also caused dissent. Currently the maximum is 28 days—it may well be this should be reconsidered and, if necessary, raised again to, say, 42 days.

Plainly, Muslim terrorism isn't going away. We need to consider everything in our battle to defeat it. But that's the responsibility of all.

Not least the community where, sadly for them, it is festering.

12 Responses to “IF YOU'RE A MUSLIM - IT'S YOUR PROBLEM”

  1. # Anonymous Pan

    Well, it's a bit rich of Lord Stevens to talk about "kneejerk reactions", given that this entire article is a hysterical response to an alleged plot about which we know very little. Like the Forest Gate brothers and De Menezes and the ricin plotters before them, this could very well turn out to be nothing. The sensible thing would be to assess the issue when we know more about it, but I guess this is too rational an approach for this potential Mayor.

    What's interesting about this piece is that, aside from the usual bullshit denials that US/UK foreign policy might have anything to do with the problem of terrorism (what a crazy idea it is to suggest that the fact we are blowing up Middle Eastern Muslims in huge quantities might upset a few of their co-religionists back home!), it is essentially an argument against the "War On Terror".

    "In all my years at the front line of fighting terrorism, one truth was always clear — communities beat terrorists, not governments or security forces"

    It seems the last 5 years has been a giant waste of time, eh?  

  2. # Blogger jonz

    Usual bullshit denial from Pan that terrorism has anything to do with Muslims/Islam, and that is actually all our fault, and come to think of it, we deserve to get our families blown to pieces as they go on holiday.

    This country has never, and will never have it's policies decided by terrorists.

    Pan, terrorists will always seek some justification outside of the Qu'ran to give their terrible acts some sort of validity.

    Please explain the Beslan school massacre and the Mumbai bombings in terms of US/UK "foreign policy".

    And we all know that "foreign policy" is a euphemism for the war on the Taliban, Saddam's regime and support for the democratic state of Israel against Muslim Jew hating death obsessed militias who state "you love life, we love death", and who's 'politicians' have nicknames such as they ever adorable Hitler.

    So, Pan, fuck that shit.  

  3. # Anonymous alison

    His is a 'hysterical response to something'. Well Im glad he is just letting off steam verbally. How would you define blowing people up on a tube train in response to not being very happy about something. Hysterical? A bit off? Slight overeaction?

    De Menezes wasnt 'nothing'. He was shot the day 4 idiots were running around London trying to set off little packages of explosives.

    Forest Gate was a reaction to a muslim tip off of an imminent threat (presumably you would have preferred our security services turned a blind eye to)

    'Please explain the Beslan school massacre and the Mumbai bombings in terms of US/UK "foreign policy".'

    Yes Pan please do.

    And speaking of 'crazy ideas' to use your turn of phrase - what a 'crazy idea' it would be if said co religionists expressed their frustrations through the democratic processes of demonstrations and elections!, eh?  

  4. # Blogger jonz

    Come along Pan, don't chicken out now.  

  5. # Anonymous Anonymous

    pan

    for you please read:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4433709.stm

    An al-Qaeda suspect who stabbed to death a policeman has been jailed for 17 years for plotting to spread ricin and other poisons on the UK's streets.

    Kamel Bourgass, 31, is already serving a life term after being convicted of murdering Detective Constable Stephen Oake during a 2003 raid in Manchester


    17 years & life for murder.


    pan:
    Like the Forest Gate brothers and De Menezes and the ricin plotters before them, this could very well turn out to be nothing.


    nothing huh?.  

  6. # Anonymous Steve

    So, Pan, why were Muslim terrorists in Birmingham already planning attacks in 2000? Why, in the same year, did police foil an attack on a Christmas market in France? This all happened before 9/11, Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Whether or not the UK had gone into Iraq we would still have been targets for Muslim terrorists.  

  7. # Anonymous pan

    Jesus, the retards are out in force today, huh?

    Foriegn policy didn't begin in 2000, assclowns. Read some history. Hell, read anything.  

  8. # Blogger jonz

    Eh? You said

    US/UK foreign policy might have anything to do with the problem of terrorism (what a crazy idea it is to suggest that the fact we are blowing up Middle Eastern Muslims in huge quantities might upset a few of their co-religionists back home!)

    This is patently a reference to the Iraq war (and no doubt Afghanistan as well).

    Foriegn policy didn't begin in 2000, assclowns

    That is one hell of back-peddle Pan!

    Care to explain where exactly "we are blowing up Middle Eastern Muslims in huge quantities" before 2000?  

  9. # Anonymous Pan

    The US/UK has been complicit in the ongoing destruction of the Palestinian people for decades. Your refusal to acknowledge this is the reason why your analysis is so confused, and the reason why you apparently think that "Islamofascism" just popped up out of nowhere, in reaction to nothing, because Muslims "hate our freedom" or some such idiotic nonsense.  

  10. # Blogger jonz

    The US/UK has been complicit in the ongoing destruction of the Palestinian people for decades.

    That's right. It's the fault of everybody else. They are almost entirely dependent on handouts from the US & EU. But of course it's the US/UK that are trying to destroy them... by being their biggest source of income...

    So you're saying that the Beslan massacre happened because of US/UK support for Israel? Please explain this "islamofascist" behaviour in terms of 'palestine'.

    Thanks

    jonz  

  11. # Anonymous Pan

    "That's right. It's the fault of everybody else. They are almost entirely dependent on handouts from the US & EU. But of course it's the US/UK that are trying to destroy them... by being their biggest source of income..."

    I honestly have no idea what the hell you are trying to say here. I think your hilarious sarcasm routine (see latest post "The Smoking Bomb" for a particularly arse-clenching example) has twisted back around on you to the extent that you can't even tell if you are being serious or not.

    "So you're saying that the Beslan massacre happened because of US/UK support for Israel?"

    Nope.  

  12. # Blogger jonz

    The US/UK has been complicit in the ongoing destruction of the Palestinian people for decades. Your refusal to acknowledge this is the reason why your analysis is so confused, and the reason why you apparently think that "Islamofascism" just popped up out of nowhere, in reaction to nothing, because Muslims "hate our freedom" or some such idiotic nonsense.

    Radical Islam has forces and motivations of itself, and does not need a pretext in order to commit aggression.

    Nick Cohen says says it rather succintly in this piece in the Grauniad comment piece just after 7/7

    In these bleak days, it's worth remembering what was said after September 2001. A backward glance shows that before the war against the Taliban and long before the war against Saddam Hussein, there were many who had determined that 'we had it coming'. They had to convince themselves that Islamism was a Western creation: a comprehensible reaction to the International Monetary Fund or hanging chads in Florida or whatever else was agitating them, rather than an autonomous psychopathic force with reasons of its own. In the years since, this manic masochism has spread like bindweed and strangled leftish and much conservative thought.

    ...At no point did they grasp that Islamism was a reactionary movement as great as fascism, which had claimed millions of mainly Muslim lives in the Sudan, Iran, Algeria and Afghanistan and is claiming thousands in Iraq. As with fascism, it takes a resolute dunderheadedness to put all the responsibility on democratic governments for its existence.

    I understand the appeal. Whether you are brown or white, Muslim, Christian, Jew or atheist, it is uncomfortable to face the fact that there is a messianic cult of death which, like European fascism and communism before it, will send you to your grave whatever you do. But I'm afraid that's what the record shows.

    The only plausible excuse for 11 September was that it was a protest against America's support for Israel. Unfortunately, Osama bin Laden's statements revealed that he was obsessed with the American troops defending Saudi Arabia from Saddam Hussein and had barely said a word about Palestine.

    After the Bali bombings, the conventional wisdom was that the Australians had been blown to pieces as a punishment for their government's support for Bush. No one thought for a moment about the Australian forces which stopped Indonesian militias rampaging through East Timor, a small country Indonesia had invaded in 1975 with the backing of the US. Yet when bin Laden spoke, he said it was Australia's anti-imperialist intervention to free a largely Catholic population from a largely Muslim occupying power which had bugged him...


    Worth reading the whole thing. And please Pan, rather just attacking my style, try and engage in the actual argument.

    So whilst I accept that perceived injusticse to Muslims, such as support for Israel, and the Iraq war can, and will be used as justification for terror against this country, unless Britain becomes arch-dhimmi state of the Middle East, then the Islamic threat to this country will continue.  

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