The Left: Imagined Islamic threat! Islamophobe! You're paranoid!

A great man once said "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you". Or was it Harrison Ford Mel Gibson from that film Conspiracy Theory? Oh I don't know...

It's just lately I've been told that I'm imagining an Islamic threat when there is none. I'm "deeply prejudiced", "paranoid", "irrational" and of course the catch-all "Islamophobic".

Well if I'm all that, then what are these people? Kind, rational, sane? Must be. They're not the problem with the world, you see, I am. If only I would stop judging people as bad, none of this would happen!

This must be also be figament of the right's imagination

Jawad Akbar: "What about easy stuff where you don't need no experience and nothing and you could get a job, yeah, like for example the biggest nightclub in central London where no-one can even turn round and say "oh they were innocent" those slags dancing around?

"If you went for the social structure where every Tom, Dick and Harry goes on a Saturday night, yeah, that would be crazy."

Omar Khyam: "If you get a job in a bar, yeah, or a club, say the Ministry of Sound, what are you planning to do there then?"

Jawad Akbar: "Blow the whole thing up."

Omar Khyam: "That's what I'm saying."

Jawad Akbar: "I think the club thing you could do, but the gas would be much harder. There's people who even get in with their searching stuff but it's only bouncers that search you."

Omar Khyam: "The explosion in the clubs, yeah, that's fine, Bro, that's not a problem. The training for that is available. To get them into the Ministry of Sound really isn't difficult."


Mr Akbar asks Mr Khyam: "Bruv, you don't think this place is bugged, do you?"

Omar Khyam: "No, I don't think it's bugged Bruv."

Yeah Bruv! See these fuckers are assimilated mofo! Though obviously I must be misinterpreting what they are saying, seeing the world through prejudiced lenses, you see.

Mr Akbar, Mr Khyamand his brother Shujah Mahmood, 19, and Waheed Mahmood, 34, both of Crawley, Salahuddin Amin, 31, of Luton, Beds, Anthony Garcia, 23, of Ilford, east London, and Nabeel Hussain, 21, of Horley, Surrey, deny conspiring to cause explosions likely to endanger life between 1 January, 2003 and 31 March, 2004.

Mr Khyam, Mr Garcia and Mr Hussain also deny a charge under the Terrorism Act of possessing 600kg (1,300lb) of ammonium nitrate fertiliser for terrorism.

Mr Khyam and Shujah Mahmood further deny possessing aluminium powder for terrorism.

They were arrested on March 30, 2004, after the fertiliser was found stored in a west London depot.

The Ministry of Sound, founded 15 years ago, has a capacity of 1,800 clubbers.
Perhaps somebody could translate? Perhaps they are just using code language, bruv, like when they say "blow the place up", what they mean is like totally go mental and dance and stuff?

30 Responses to “The Left: Imagined Islamic threat! Islamophobe! You're paranoid!”

  1. # Anonymous Guvnor

    "Perhaps somebody could translate? Perhaps they are just using code language, bruv, like when they say "blow the place up", what they mean is like totally go mental and dance and stuff?"

    Dont go putting ideas into the lefties heads, it will also serve as the defence teams next excuse. Like the advert they could argue that the explosive they had on them was simply to act as a metaphore, a bit like in that drinks  

  2. # Anonymous j0nz

    Ha! ... They don't need me to help them come up with their wacko theories!  

  3. # Anonymous leanne

    wasn't that Mel Gibson?  

  4. # Anonymous j0nz

    You are aboslutely right I stand corrected  

  5. # Anonymous Malcolmcog

    The Human Rights of these poor chaps are being infringed, could we not get Cherie Blair to defend them ? They were obviously 'good muslim boys' (Copyright every single sodding relative or neighbour of a mad bomber) and just having a lighthearted discussion on the social mores of modern Britain.  

  6. # Anonymous Guvnor

    Out of order that!!!!

    U forget, All Muslims condemn terrorism in all shapes and forms, due to the fact Muslims never get involved with that sort of thing  

  7. # Anonymous j0nz

    If only we could all stop being so judgmental of Muslim terrorists none of this shit would happen. Islamophobia is causing Muslims to want to blow things up. At last I see the root cause of the problem; Infidels.  

  8. # Anonymous Better living...

    ...through sarcasm.  

  9. # Anonymous Malcolmcog

    Interesting point Pokerroom.  

  10. # Anonymous Guvnor

    I reckon as long as we do the right thing and do everything muslims tell us to, and agree with everything they say, no matter how stupid their statements and demands may appear, we can end this terrorism problem forever.

    why didnt we think of it earlier. time to introduce sharia law into the uk.

    Damn, do i sound sarcastic again??  

  11. # Anonymous j0nz

    Damn spammers.. Pokerroom needs a good kickin'!

    Guvnor I thick you have hit the nail on the head. I mean think about it, we could end terrorism tommorow. Let's build mosques and enocurage people to convert, I mean they would like that, and would be far less likely to blow us up. If only people would do what these Islamists told people to do we wouldn't have all these problems...

    We should close all pubs, clubs, churches, kill all piggies, wrap all the women in burqas, beat them up a bit... And if anyone opposes such measures, I can only assume that those people are a biggoted racists...  

  12. # Anonymous Ty Cobb

    "...and would be far less likely to blow us up"

    Actually, I was wondering what the current likelihood of getting blown up is. Any thoughts? 1 in 10? Less?  

  13. # Anonymous j0nz

    Actually, I was wondering what the current likelihood of getting blown up is. Any thoughts? 1 in 10? Less?

    Depends where you work, mate. My colleague was blown up on the bus. I would have taken the route to Russel Square on 7th July if I hadn't sprained my wrist the day before.

    Did you have a point? Or just felt like being a cock?  

  14. # Anonymous Old Peculier

    "Islamophobia" is a load of cock.  

  15. # Anonymous Ty Cobb

    "Did you have a point?"

    Yep. And I think you got it, too.

    Sorry about your colleague.  

  16. # Anonymous j0nz

    Well sorry to call you a cock so on your first comment.

    I assume our point is, why go on about a terrorists threat if your not likely to be directly affected by it?

    Well, Ty Cobb, there are so called Islamic scholars that make a religious ruling, a fatwa, saying that it's ok to kill innocents. In fact, in the case of America there is a fatwa that up to 4 million American innocents coud be killed including 2 million children. A Saudi scholar has disputed this. He said the figure should be more like 10 million.

    There has only been one successful suicide attack on Britain. Let's not forget, two weeks after the 7th July carnage, Islamic warrior wannabes tried to double the slaughter statistics... There have been numerous major terrorist attacks thwarted, according to MI5 and the Police.

    The terrorists need only to get lucky once. The threat is very real. Maybe you don't commute through London, but I do, and it's all the more real.

    "Those who bury their head in the sand, will eventually get it kicked"  

  17. # Anonymous Ty Cobb

    Well, maybe you sort of got the point.

    "Let's build mosques and enocurage people to convert ... and would be far less likely to blow us up"

    My question was: how likely are "they" to blow "us" up as it stands? How do you measure this?

    And yeah, I do live in London. My personal feeling is that I'm more likely to die falling down an escalator at King's Cross than by getting blown up by Islamofascists. I think the stats are on my side.  

  18. # Anonymous Guvnor

    TY maybe the stats are on ur side if u fancy taking a tumble on the steps at kings cross. Personally im not too keen on the odds of dying an early death been increased by anything. I think we have established that there is a on going threat of terrorism in the uk so i would prefer if that was not there.

    hey i might not die in a terrorist attack, i might be a few limbs lighter instead, either way i dont fancy it no matter how slim the odds.

    Bear in mind the classic "it wont happen to me" feeling we have. When someone gets into a car pissed, do they think "im gonna crash into a wall today, kill myself and a few innocent bystanders" do people get onto planes and think "today i facy being sucked out of the plane at 35,000 ft or maybe even burned alive" no of course not cos especially in the latter case the stats of that happening are stacked against it happening.

    So how many people who have been involved as victims in terrorism have thought the odds were on their side only to be unlucky enough to get on the wrong tube?

    The chances may be slim, but lets not get complacent about it. Bad things can happen to anyone, nobody is exempt from that, and no-one is immortal.

    If I am going to die for whatever reason, personaly it would prefer it to be either natural causes or my own fault. I can accept the risk im putting my body at drinking and smoking, i can accept it if i fall down some steps or walk infront of a bus, cos it was my own stupid fault for not paying attention to myself. but im gonna be mighty pissed off if some twat kills me without me having chance to tear the bastards head off first.  

  19. # Anonymous j0nz

    My personal feeling is that I'm more likely to die falling down an escalator at King's Cross than by getting blown up by Islamofascists. I think the stats are on my side.

    Well I would say you have priorities screwed!

    "Grant me the Serenity, To accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, and Wisdom to know the difference."

    I know I'm being pedantic here, but I doubt whether 53 people fell down the lifts at Kings Cross, or in fact the whole country, withing the last decade. I think the stats are on my side here. :)

    Guvnor is right with the "it won't happen to me" syndrome. And on the if I am going to die scenario, I'd rather it wasn't due to other people's murderous intentions...

    Perhaps you could start an awareness campaign about the dangers of elevators? :)  

  20. # Anonymous Dan

    are there any fatwa's issued for the UK or London?

    (a genuine question before anyone trys to rip my head from my shoulders for sounding like a sarcy lefty)  

  21. # Anonymous Dan

    i think most people in the 'it wont happen to me' camp think the same way about being run over, getting mugged, attacked etc, its more of a 'fucking hope that shit never happens to me' rather than sticking ones head in the sand.

    I still shit myself getting on the tube some times, but i also occasionally shit myself when a large group of youths approach, or George Bush has an 'idea'.

    I try and carry a few pairs of pants wherever i go.  

  22. # Anonymous j0nz

    Until recently, Britain was under a "covenant of security". MI5 & MI6 were well aware of Islamic terrorists in the country, however they did not deem them a threat, since largely they were using the UK as a planning base to launch attacks abroad. How myopic this was.

    Bin Laden's ... connection to Britain is so strong that in recent years Washington faced calls to add the UK to its black list of states sponsoring terrorism.

    And some Arab states now under suspicion accused Britain of giving harbour to Muslim militants.

    So open was Bin Laden's presence that for most of the 1990s he maintained an office in London, named the Advisory and Reformation Committee.

    Like Beirut in the 1970s, London became a safe haven from which to broaden the Jihad armed struggle from Afghanistan to the secular regimes of the Arab world.

    Bin Laden's strong links to Britain

    We are no longer under a "convenant of security", however, like anything there is inertia to change...
    "Islamists considered the UK as a secondary base for their actions. To take a few examples . . . there were terrorist attempts in France in 1995, financed from the UK - that's a reality. General Massoud's assassination on 9 September 2001 was also financed in the UK - that's a reality. The kidnapping of western tourists in the Yemen was organised by London and probably by Abu Hamza - his son was involved with it."

    Post-9/11, this pattern of British Islamists being implicated in attacks abroad has hardly altered. Here are just a few examples. Zacharias Moussaoui, from Brixton, is charged with being 9/11's "20th hijacker". In 2002, Richard Reid, a Brit, tried to blow up a plane out of Paris with a bomb in his shoe. Last year, Asif Hanif, from Hounslow, martyred himself in Israel. Omar Sheikh, the man convicted of the murder of the Wall Street Journal correspondent Daniel Pearl, is British.

    Yet British Islamists target other countries. Why? According to Sifaoui, it has long been recognised by the British Islamists, by the British government and by UK intelligence agencies, that as long as Britain guarantees a degree of freedom to the likes of Hassan Butt, the terrorist strikes will continue to be planned within the borders of the UK but will not occur here

    Why terrorists love Britain

  23. # Anonymous Dan

    but surely this is out the window now, given the two attemted attacks in as many weeks, the attempted poison attacks, and multiple arrests of terrorists and there stuff last year?

    you can't have your ricin and eat it (or spread it around north london as the plan was)  

  24. # Anonymous j0nz

    Well it worries me that 40% of British Muslims want Sharia law in the UK, that 90,00-300,000 British Muslims think the London terror attacks were justified.

    I don't see how this can change if people just tacitly accept these, why not challenge these abhorrent viewpoints, refute them on whatever intellectual level works?

    If we don't debate these ideological issues now, then they can spread. We have people on the left such as Galloway telling us that killing innocents in Israel and Iraq is justified. I can't just be sitted idly by while this happens! To many sheeple, it's dangerous!  

  25. # Anonymous j0nz

    Well mate, after 7th July I thought, well, we won't be seeing any more of that for a while! Then fuck me down with a concrete feather the size of a boeing's wing span, they try again on the 21st!!

    Nah Islamic terrorism is here to stay. Here's why. 2:191 3:151 4:76

    When we have major Islamic scholors repudiating armed jihad against the unbelievers, thats when Islamic terrorism will diminish.  

  26. # Anonymous Dan

    fuck me is it really that high? Your right it is scary and Im not debating it. Im just saying that how can the state think there is no threat from within when there have been so many near misses and last July.

    I am in aggreance, i hate the fact that any religious notion should translate into the killing of anyone. But i am confused, many people still beleive Islam to be the religion of peace and sharing, so where the fuck does all this shit come from?  

  27. # Anonymous Guvnor

    As i debated at opinionated voice, the notion of islam being the religion of peace is because it preaches errrm some peaceful things, apart from the killing jews and raping their women bits......oh and killing infidels in the dead of the night......anyway forget all that.

    the logic that it is a peaceful religion is that in the quran it says muslims should not attack others unless they feel under threat or that they have been attacked.

    but to the jews the deal was simple, do as we say and you get peace, something neville chamberlin worked out when it was too late with hitler.

    so the terrorism IS justified by muslims, forget all the bullshit you hear on the outside. We went after Bin Laden after 911, he is a muslim, we invaded afghanistan a muslim country, and went into iraq another muslim state. we have supported and were responsible for Israel as a state so have been victimising palestinian muslims etc etc etc.

    now take all the reasons out of it and the above is what ur left with, a war on islam, if u want to look at it that way, which considering i havent heard many muslims supporting the any action the usa or uk has taken, it would suggest that they are more interested in what is happening to their muslim brothers rather than what reasons the uk and usa had for doing certain things.

    thus you have the excuse that muslims are being threatened and attacked, thus religion of peace must, haha defend its self and thus any terror attacks are justified as self defence, due to the fact we all voted for blair and bush.....or the majority did. so we are legitimate targets.

    i know its difficult, but try think like a muslim and then u will get the answers ur looking for.  

  28. # Anonymous Dan

    damn it, i couldnt be bothered with my own religion, now i have to go and figure out someone else's!

    I hear you govnor, i think theres only one thing for it, to quote jonz and the original leftie

    Alltogether now

    Imagine there's no Heaven
    It's easy if you try
    No hell below us
    Above us only sky
    Imagine all the people
    Living for today

    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace

    You may say that I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope someday you'll join us
    And the world will be as one

    Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people
    Sharing all the world

    You may say that I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope someday you'll join us
    And the world will live as one  

  29. # Anonymous michelle

    hey jonz...

    i altered my template to get rid of the automatic gibberish in the "name" and "website" fields (seems to be some sort of a bug in the templates of all the originals listed on the template site). to do that, i had to get rid of the "remember me" feature.

    i also found a code to add comment verification... the spam was unbelieveable. i found the code somewhere on the original template site, someone left it in the comments, search around and you should be able to find it. you also have to turn on comment verification when you log into your blogger account.  

  30. # Anonymous j0nz

    Thanks 'chelle

    Lenon... great songs... shame about the extravagent socialism  

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